June 20, 2015
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I don’t think I would every try psychedelic ‘shrooms, but I found this article to be really interesting! It would have been pretty cool to see a picture of the blue stuff, psilocybin being squeezed a bit out of the mushroom.
You shouldn’t rule it out just yet, who knows what you’ll be willing to try years from now! I believe everyone should try it – with an open mind – at least once in their lifetime. It’s not something that should be feared, because after all it is all in your head, and you shouldn’t be afraid of yourself. Psychedelics give you a chance to swim in your head for a bit, test the waters, and if you have a bad trip it’s a learning experience. It confronts you with what you need to be confronted with. This is the reason so much research was done with psychedelics and psychotherapy in the 1960s, and now these days too http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-06/-magic-mushrooms-return-to-psychology-labs-40-years-after-leary.html
A few benefits to mushrooms over say LSD is that 1) it’s natural, 2) it’s free, and 3) you can take a little bit at first, put your foot in the water, unlike acid where it’s all or nothing.
Glad you enjoyed the post! I agree that would’ve made a cool photo, not sure if it’s possible though!
Brilliantly said man! 🙂
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I found some mushrooms in my mulch piles My concern is the dogs these shrooms look like the picture right under the No mushroom picking sign are they going to hurt my dogs or anyone else for that matter?
Hey man, I pick magic mushrooms and I take my dogs. Typically my dogs wont just go and eat a mushroom but if they do, you should give them water with a little bit of peroxide, this will make them vomit and hopefully they won’t trip. I think one or two wouldn’t do too much to them, the only bad thing I can think of is that they wouldn’t understand whats happening.
You’re a fool to tell someone not to rule it out. Take some real medical courses and you’ll see what it does to your brain. If a person in any way has any trace of mental disorder in their genes, even as simple a depression as pms, it can cause irreversible damage. Read your DSMV before you post to others who don’t know.
I call bs.
Please provide links to any papers/studies regarding this ‘irreversible damage’.
And no, a general rant about DSMV is not going to cut it.
I thoroughly enjoyed your article & observations. Of course when I got to the part about spreading the shroomies out on an album cover, I just happened to be listening to …Yep, BLUES FOR ALLAH!!! I tipped my cap-no pun intended- to Cap’n Jerry for the synchronicity. I live in the North Eastern area of the US, near PA. What are my chances of having a successful search & harvest?
Thanks for the cool vibes and helpful advice,
Haha, wow! That is one crazy synchronicity! Things like that happen to me all the time, life sometimes feels like one big cosmic joke! I’ve never been picking outside of Australia so I cannot help you much there, but I know people in the North Eastern area of the states who have had success with hunting mushrooms. Your best bet might be to focus your search on a species called Panaeolus Subbalteatus (now called Cinctulus) – they grow wildly during the months of February – September. I dug this up for you, a little field guide to help you out, for that particular species of psychedelic mushroom. http://www.shroomery.org/9608/Subbedhunter420s-Guide-to-Hunting-and-Identifying-Panaeolus-subbalteatus-P-cinctulus Thanks for stopping by
Good to find an expert who knows what he’s talinkg about!
I’m not easily imsdseper. . . but that’s impressing me! 🙂
uhhhh, does anyone know what the bad mushroom he is talking about is? The ones with the slightly redder cap and a little orange/red on the stem? I think I ate a few and I want to know how bad I fucked up? Any help would be awesome…
The mushrooms I was referring to are called Leratiomyces ceres, look them up on google images and let me know if those are the ones you ate. They won’t kill you thankfully, but depending on how many you ate you will likely get very sick. Don’t eat anything that you’re unsure of, there are a lot of mushrooms that can kill you. Little bright red ones (both cap and stalk) are really bad, I hope you didn’t eat any of those…
Yoo where abouts in Melbourne can i find these? I live in the western Suburbs but do have a car. Drove up to Mount Macedon yesterday the very first shroom I found was this one under a pine tree http://www.google.com.au/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1680&bih=898&tbm=isch&tbnid=QWo_Vyf9yYKRQM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsocietyforhumanisticpsychology.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F06%2Fmagic-mushrooms-can-improve.html&docid=U6Zhk_KyhhxHmM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_qLAIskTQXUc%2FTRX-QKdn24I%2FAAAAAAAAFY0%2Fr_mwCN4W_dQ%2Fs1600%2Fmagic-mushrooms.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=YNa4T_jENuP9mAWWw6m8CQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1051&vpy=191&dur=5766&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=157&ty=111&sig=112339457922896597490&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=31&ved=1t%3A429%2Cr%3A4%2Cs%3A0%2Ci%3A144
thats the link to a photo of it. Where are some good locations to find these and should i go hunting end May? 😀 please reply back!!
That mushroom is an amanita muscaria. They are psychoactive but don’t have any psilocybin in them, the effects of the mushroom are more similar to a deliriant/dissociative drug than a psychedelic/hallucinogenic. I go hunting in the SE suburbs usually. I’m not going to tell you any of my spots, you have to find your own. Get up early a day after some good rainfall, whip out your GPS and look for parks with creeks or any other body of water in them. Pine and eucalyptus forests are also a safe bet, hope that helps.
Lot of smarts in that potgnis!
Can I u please help me by pointing me in the right direction, I live in the south east of melbourne and I’m having no luck I’m talking 5 seasons not 1 shroom what am I doing wrong. I love the trip it’s a memory that never fades. Harryk
5 seasons!? Wow, that’s unlucky… I’m guessing you know what mushroom you are looking for, but just don’t know where to find them? They are everywhere man, literally. They grow on woodchips: go to any park that has woodchips in it and you will find them. Good luck!
Im in maine, i found shrooms that look like the ones in your pictures, are they good to eat ?
I can’t say, the mushrooms in my pictures only grow in Australia and New Zealand, so they probably aren’t the same ones. Take pictures of them and get them identified over at http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/3
I live in the SE suburbs and have just started picking mushrooms thanks to the information you have provided, I was just wondering whether the size of the mushroom effects how much psyilocybin it contains, I’v heard that no matter what size they all contain the same amount, more mushroom equals more psyilocybin seems to make more sense though. Also do you eat the stem as well as the cap? Cheers mate.
Cool, glad I could help. Obviously the size of the mushroom effects the amount of psilocybin they will contain – a small orange will give you less juice than a big orange, you know? Generally you only want to pick them if the cap has opened up, otherwise they are still babies and won’t give you as much of what you’re after; better to be patient. If you find small ones let them grow and pick them a few days later.
Yes, you eat both the stem and the cap. If you’re eating them fresh you will want to eat about 27 grams for a good, strong trip, while if you’re drying them you will want 3 – 3.5 grams. If you’re new to this change the dose to maybe 14-20 grams fresh, or 1.5 – 2 grams dried. Most of the mushroom is water weight. Fresh is more potent than dried, but they’ll only last about 5 days before they go bad, while if they’re properly dried and stored they’ll easily last a year or more.
Hope that helps.
I have only been able to find babies and by the time I get a chance to pick them they are either gone or have turned black and seem to die, I will keep trying though.
Thanks for the help man I really appreciate it.
Absolutely brilliant post mate!
I’ve been wanting some relevant local info like this for a long time!
I’m from Bendigo, and i quite regularly head out around the macedon ranges for photography day trips, and although ive seen plenty of mushrooms, i’ve never known what to look for. I have been hunting once before with some friends, but we had no idea what we were looking for and came up with nothing.
Today i did quite a bit of driving to some locations i thought would be good, but i had no luck. There were a lot of disturbed mushrooms in the places i went, so im assuming others had been there recently.
I came home with nothing, but decided to check a spot in bendigo based on some clues a friend gave me about where he gets them (wont share location with me). Within less than a minute of searching (camera in hand to look less suss) i had found some in a very public area. Unfortunately the light was fading, so ill have to return there tomorrow and go over the whole area with greater care, as im sure there will be tons more.
The spore print hasn’t finished yet, but based on the photo and information i posted on Shroomery, they quickly identified them as psilocybe subaeruginosa.
I got 5 good specimens, which wont be enough for my partner and i to enjoy properly, so once i’ve found some more, ill report back with the results.
Thanks again, and be sure to post a follow up on your own experiences 🙂
Hey mate, good to hear you’re finding some! Hope you find enough for you and your partner to have a memorable trip!
hey i live in the blue mountains and i found some mushrooms in little clumps at the bottom of huge tree, they were tiny (the top third of my pinky finger) and they where also growing up the tree, i really want to find some, the land around the huge tree was extremly dense and decomposing wood was everywhere, it was raining at the time. i cant remember if the stem was hollow or not but im worried that they could be Galerina autumnalis, they were white and faded to gold on the cap, the stem was really thin and the top was around 1cm in diametre. the inside of the cap was a white/tan colour
can it be too dense? cause i read that you shouldnt go to far into the bush. the atmosphere where i was was really humid and damp, and the track was muddy
and can you give me a list of all the look-a-like i should look out for, please?
Judging by your description those mushrooms are not active. You cannot even see the gills on a psilocybe subaeruginosa when they are that small as the cap will be attached to the stem at that stage in their development. They also don’t grow on trees. The stems of subs are hollow, I should correct that in the post, they just don’t seem hollow as they are filled with bits of dirt and sludge and what not. The stems are very dense and shouldn’t feel too weak, they’re also not ‘really thin’, they can be thin, but never thinner than a drinking straw.
The gills are never white. When they’re young the gills are tan, and when mature they are brown. Try some parks, especially any with mulch or woodchips. They love to grow on flower beds. Yes I was thinking of doing just that, I’ll take some pics and make a list of non actives to look out for. Good luck!
By the way, I have updated the guide to include pictures of non actives to avoid/look out for.
thanks for the reply, sorry i was so late to thank you haha.
still living in the blue mountains, what time do you think the season (in the bluemountains) will start this year?
last year i only bothered to go hunting twice, no luck, but understandable.
on shroomery it says that these are the only mushys that grow in nsw;
no liberty caps?? what ones should i be looking for?? i’ve researched subs and cubensis as i though they were my best bet, and you said know what you want and only look for that.
thanks, great info.
i cheaked out your list/pictures of non-active mushrooms. and the poisonous ones. thats so scary how similar they look!! you said not to pick them up, i’m bringing chopstick so i can pinch the stems to see if they bruise blue without touching them. Genius over here right? haha are there any mushrooms that bruise blue that are poisonous?
This entire guide is written about subs, so if you’ve read it you already know what to look for and where. Haha, you can touch non-active mushrooms, I was exaggerating a bit, just don’t take them out of the ground and definitely don’t eat them! Only mushrooms with psilocybin bruise blue, so the answer to your question is no.
This is the best guide I’ve read thus far. Well done mate, when your in Sydney give me a buzz and maybe we can go hunting or thereabouts.
Cool, glad you like it! I’m in the process of updating it as we speak, so check up on it in a day or two. Sounds good, same goes with when you’re in Melbourne, Peace.
Hey, I live in the U.S. in Alabama. Ive never tried psilocybin shrooms but i think it would be a great experience. Ive seen plenty of mushrooms all around and i think some of them may be magic but im not sure. Could you help me figure this out? Im looking forward to trying them.
Hi, I have never been picking in the U.S so I’m not sure if I can help you. However, I can tell you what psychedelic species grow in Alabama, but then you’re on your own. You can expect to find:
1. Panaeolus cinctulus
2. Panaeolus cyanescens
3. Psilocybe cubensis
I know psilocybe cubensis grow in cow dung, but that is as far as my knowledge on these three mushroom species goes. Your best bet is to buy a book with lots of pictures of mushrooms around the world, or go to shroomery.org
That’s really thinking at an imvsprsiee level
Awesome post! I live in new Zealand but haven’t found my own yet here though I’ve sampled the Subaeruginosa, it is great. This is going to be a big help.
The subaeruginosa really is great, good luck with your future hunts!
hey brother! thank you! i really enjoyed your article! was very comprehensive! but now what has happened to all of it? i can only find half of it!! with no info on drying times or the recently added photos of similar species!!
hey mate, i’ve split the post up into 3-4 pages as it was getting quite big! some people have slow computers and I didn’t want to burn out their internet having to load 100+ pictures in one post… at the bottom you will see a ‘Next Page’ link, and underneath that you can see the page numbers. peace
brilliant article on sub picking, perhaps the best i’ve read so far.
Just found my first patch before my birthday, ate 3grams, and it was the most terrifying nightmare ive ever had in my life; completely took me out of reality and into the darkness, was very hard to keep my sanity, but i know it was trying to tell me what i needed to change within myself. Anyways, made realize how potentially dangerous shrooms can be, if not used with respect.
Anyways, my question is – how long do they keep in those jars of yours?
I put my batch in mini plastic snap lock bags, in a big plastic container with damprid container on the side.
Wow, yeah mushrooms can put you on your ass if you’re not prepared for it, or if you try to fight it. No such thing as a bad trip in my opinion, because as you said they confront you with what you need to be confronted with. Hope your next one is more enjoyable though 🙂 Maybe try 2 grams next.
If the shrooms are super dry and kept in an airtight container with dessicant packs thrown in and then kept in a cool dark place, they will last 10+ years. Don’t keep them in plastic snap lock bags if you want to store them for long periods. Get a jar. Also, damprid is only used for drying the mushrooms, not for storing them.
Hey buddy I live in the southeast picked some magics the other day, for the first time in 24 years. Gee I wish there was someone like you around way back then. Great write up man, I won’t be waiting that long again.
Thanks mate, 24 years!? Shit, good to have you back on the wagon! Enjoy!
That saves me. Thanks for being so selibsne!
I told my kids we’d play after I found what I neddee. Damnit.
Nice work, good pictures and descriptions, especially the lookalikes.
I live in Tassie, on a bush block covered in eucalypts. Guess what grows here, about 10 metres from my front door :))
They’re subs for sure, but they may be a local variant, as quite a few mid-sized ones would have stems a bit thinner than a drinking straw. Otherwise identical to your description.
You’re very lucky to have found some so close to home, enjoy them!
Awesome write up mate, how quickly does the blue appear on the stem normally?
Usually the stem should already have some blue on it when you spot it due to twigs, leaves, or insects making contact with the stem over time. If not, pinch it and you should see blueing anywhere from straight away to 10 minutes later.
Hi mate, 1st timer here looking for shrooms. I’m in central Scotland mate, any advice on finding and consuming? Cheers man
Hey mate, sorry I wish I could help but I’ve never gone picking in Scotland before. Your best bet is to do research online, particularly shroomery.org I looked it up for you, and found that in Scotland the two species of psilocybin mushroom are: 1. Panaeolus cinctulus, and 2. Psilocybe semilanceata. Hopefully that helps narrow your search. Peace
I’ve been picking for about 4 or 5 years, and consider myself fairly experienced. This guide is absolutely amazing! Very clear, beautiful images, and very accurate information. I seriously wish I’d found it years ago when I first started.
One tiny point you might be interested in, you’ve mentioned a couple of times that the amount of blue bruising is related to psilocybin content. It is definitely related, but in my experience, the amount of bluing doesn’t seem to relate to potency particularly. It’s a fairly common misconception here in NZ that black-blue mushrooms are super potent, when in reality they’re most likely just manhandled. Bluing indicates oxidation of the Psilocin in the flesh of the shroom, which if anything means there’s slightly less active ingrediant, thus less potency.
Thanks so much for a really clear, concise and well presented guide, you’re doing a great service for anyone who’s interested in amateur mycology, it’d be hard to pick the wrong thing after reading this carefully.
Thanks for the uplifting comment! I have been told a couple of times since writing this that the blue bruising is not an indicator of potency, but I have yet to go and change it. I didn’t know that more blue bruising suggested less potency, that is interesting. Whenever I see a very blue mushroom I still get more excited than when I see a slightly blue one, I still like to believe that they’re more potent even though I know it’s not true! Ignorance is bliss right? 😉
Thanks again, I’m happy to know that the guide is useful, I too wish I had something like this when I started (been picking for 3 years, had many unsuccessful hunts in that time). If it wasn’t for advice of friends and others on the internet who have found them before I would have never accumulated this knowledge and would’ve probably died eating the wrong mushroom. With the internet in full bloom it’s our responsibility to share information to help others on similar journeys!
Hey man great very informative justmoved to the north east in new York I found a beautiful patch in the hemlock Forrest in Johnson city but my stems bruise more of a purple then blue what’s that mean… And how can I dry these babies o got a bunch and set some in front of a fan with heat in the house at 70°f but after they were dry after like 2 days I ate them and didnt trip… I ate a couple fresh when I first picked them and got home but didnt trip felt a Lil wierd but nothing major help me I need help with the drying process
This is my first season picking and this article was amazing help.found a bunch first couple days just have couple ?’s to get clearifyamazing help thanks so much best article I found online…..B-)
if you didn’t trip then it sounds like you don’t need help with the drying process but the finding process. don’t eat mushrooms unless you are 100% they are magic. if you ate them and didn’t trip consider yourself lucky you are not dead.
hey bud its an old mate from shroomery vic , i did have a couple pics for ya but they didnt show habitat to well .Youve done very well and yes theres still subs around . Shame about the shroomery
What happened to shroomery?
cant really say for sure I Tweeted Ythan there are mixed comments from him im not sure but it just doesnt sound liggit bit contraditary and doesnt want to give a straight answer something fishy i suspect
i found ashroom that have dark under
Absolutely fantastic site , great info indeed . I just picked my first batch in over 20 yrs , will be drying em out and saving for a rainy day 😉
hey* nice site..in the area.. looking for mushies for photography purposes & fun*)
need assistance on how to dry & preserve*) thanks
I covered the drying/preserving process in the post, you will need to be more specific if you want me to help you any further.
if you’re in the same area as me then you’re not going to find any magic mushrooms to ‘photograph’ as they’re out of season.
Hey man sorry didnt really clarify what I meant so I no they are Psilocybe ( briuse deep purple with a hint of blue; spore print was a violet black)I only eat like 3-4grams fresh I didnt no like dosageswise I been eating mushrroms for about 7 years and I may have just not had enough… When they were picked about 6 hours later that same day my buddies w+ho have never ate them got a nice trip for about 4½ hours but they ate like 6½-7½g fresh….. The pcs You have on the blog is exactly what they look like.. Another ?…a couple times that ive done the spore checks on them left them over night and in the morning I took jar off and saw a bunch of tiny flee type bugs yellowish color on the spore print moving around what are they and of eat on a shroom are they bad? I havnt eaten them since the first time I picked them month ago I keep picking them and attempt to dry them but ibdont no if there good after I dried them the way I do… After ready this blog I dont no if there Psilocybe subaeruginosa cause these stems turn more of a purple color…. Email is firstname.lastname@example.org email or post blog back please help me
How could any of this be better stated? It col’ndut.
you are definitely not taking enough. you should be eating 3-4 grams ‘dried’ not fresh. 1 gram dried is equivalent to about 10 grams fresh as they have a lot of water weight. If you are eating them fresh you will need about 7-30 grams, so obviously 3-4 grams fresh is not going to do anything. Though if you picked them a month ago I really doubt they are fresh, and are probably bruising purple due to really old age. Dry them so that they will snap if you try to bend them. You might need a food dehydrator for that, or just put them in front of the fan for 48 hours or more. Those bugs are fine, they shouldn’t be there if you dried them properly though. Put the mushrooms in front of a fan and they will all go away.
Thabks man thats what I needed to no and NP a no month ago is when I first pickwd them lol beeb picking constantly thanks for the info helps out alot man 😉
Any time mate
Your story was really infoemativr, thanks!
hey mate im from the same area as you i think…
anyway i have been picking a couple of times but have never really got a good yeild
is there anyway i could go picking with you to get tips and pointers? you can keep what you and i pick
if your interested reply to this (pre sure i get a email) or if you can see my email be sure to send me one
Sorry mate, too risky to do anything like that, as you know mushroom hunting is very illegal, and cops could be sussing this site out for all I know. All the pointers I could possibly give you are in this guide so I don’t see why you’d need to go with me in the first place. Besides, my hunting spots are secret. Good luck
Thanks so much …
I found your site to be so clear precise and Purely brillant…
i live in Sydney and Im just curious i have been picking now for about 5 years and i have been checking out the rainfall amounts on the weather breau daily…
i have compared the stats to previous years , Are you aware of just how much rain is needed to be considered ideal? eg how much mm?? i believe as long as its wet and below 10 degrees not matter if its mid to early March these babies will still be there….
hear from you soon
I see you can’t sleep either 😉 I’ve never gone picking in Sydney but I assume the season would be the same as Melbourne. I can’t tell you how many mm of rain is ideal as i’ve never brought a measuring cup with me on my hunts and I don’t check the weather bureau often… you’ll know when there is enough rain. I don’t see them pop up until at least May as it’s rarely cold or wet enough in March, especially this March, which seems to be a lot hotter than I last remember it. You’ve been picking for 5 years so you should know what these little guys need, good luck this season! peace!
thanks for replying…
i do no what im looking for and vise versa but its just i guess i have had dreams myself and thought it was a calling for the theory i have… This march has definitely been warmer.. I have found a few on my last visit and then relized i lost my bearings and was not in area where the gold was but yet in another forest… 🙂
im a (meathead) for direction….
one more question, i have heard of an awsume weekend that takes place in melbourne goes on for the weekend and is held in some sort of pavilion i think for party animals on our level…. im wanting to attend . do you no the name at all of this event?
There are quite a few weekend festivals in Vic, but the one you’re probably thinking of (lots of trippers) is Rainbow Serpent.
i couldent find any on my walk, alot of orange fuzzy (on the bottom) death lookin things
Slam dunkin like Shaquille O’Neal, if he wrote intovmafire articles.
this is year will be my second season and I’m pretty sure I live in the same area as you and I was wondering when you think this year they’ll start growing or if they’ve already started. I’m really keen to go again this year, I remember even if I didn’t find anything I enjoyed the walks a lot too.
It’d be great to hear from you.
Hey mate, it varies from year to year, could start happening as early as April or as late as July. The best indication is to wait until after we’ve had a good and consistent two weeks or so of rain, that’s when they usually start growing. Also be sure to suss out the thread at shroomery.org – when people start uploading pictures of massive hauls its safe to say the seasons started. Good luck and have fun this year, peace!
This indcotures a pleasingly rational point of view.
Thank you so much! I went walking this morning and discovered lots of patches with different types of mushrooms growing. I’ve always wanted to try magic mushies but didn’t know what to look for so I took a few photos to compare with some on the internet. Your information is by far the most helpful 🙂 I feel confident that I’m not gonna pick the wrong ones or die thanks to you so weeeheee I can’t wait to go pickin and trippin
I lived in oberon for other 2O year. Havnt found what i was lookin for. Found amanita muscaria. Do you know much bout them and if they have similar side affects coompared to the gold cap which i havent found yet. Found a couple of similar mushrooms. I did find one that had a thin stem and black rim around the out side of the top of it. Shape of a sun flower. Only found 1. Top was round the size of a 5cent coin and a white center. The black ring around the out side look like the spaws which continude under the cap to the stem. Look forward to hearing your coments.
I have has amanita muscara (nice and big caps usually red sprecald on top)
i only had about 1/2 of a massive cap.. tasted funky and i had little (but good) effects but you would need a strong gut to have enough to have a good trip.. maybe they would go okay in tea?
Thankyou, you’re the best resource i’ve ever come across.
sometimes i think with drugs as easily accessable as these (much like pot) parents and school should be more infomational on the effects because people who are going to try drugs then the correcr infomation should be given! Or they might do more damage trying to get the drug then actually taking it
i’ve been interested in the concept of magic mushrooms for a while (havent tried them yet) and i, like anyone should have considered it properly, decided if their mind is up for it, decided a time and place so it is as safe as possible and if possible, get a trusted friend to watch over for your first expereience. These sort of things need to be discussed properly as been confident with your mental state is what will decide if you have a good or bad trip, and even though i’ve never tried magic mushrooms or any other physcodelic, i always do my reseach before trying something and you sir, are a true saint for putting accurate infomation out for people like me to read!
Greetings from the Huon Valley, Tasmania.
This week the subs arrived…in case anyone was wondering.
Hey there ! Thank you so much for this article, When do you think the season will really start in Melbourne this year ?
Thanks again 🙂
No problem mate! It’s due to rain next week so hopefully by next weekend there will be some activity, but seeing as it’s a very late start I don’t think the season will ‘peak’ till late june/july.
that article was awesome dude exactly what ive been looking for. You are actually an awesome writer aswell.
thanks man, my dream is to one day make a living as a writer, so i really appreciate it!
what colour should the inside of the stems be when you split them open?
is it normal to be brown inside or should they be all white?
Browny orange stem is ok -on the inside-.
Just make sure they stain/bruise blue and you’ll be fine. The irridescent shiny look to the outside of the stem also helps.
There’s an orange-stemmed lookalike where I am, but the difference in gill colours is also obvious.
That’s right, you should never have to look at the inside of the stem to identify a mushroom. If I see someone coughing and spitting globs of phlegm I don’t have to cut them up to know they are sick, catch my drift? The orange stemmed lookalike you are referring to is likely a Leratiomyces ceres. They often show up when subs are nearby and will sometimes even share the same patch, they are also toxic so it is important to be able to identify them. The biggest giveaway is their reddish cap.
Check these out – do you reckon these pictures are correct? There’s a couple in here that really look like subs to me – I’m a bit paranoid now: http://australianfungi.blogspot.com.au/2010/08/42-leratiomyces-ceres.html
Dave, those pictures are all correct Leratiomyces ceres specimens. If you think you see some Psilocybe subaerugiona mushrooms in there then you need to be careful not to eat anything you find without getting it ID’d first.
L. ceres often grow in the same patch as subs, so if you don’t know how to single them out you run the risk of picking a bunch of subs with a couple of poisonous lookalikes thrown in the mix. Better to be paranoid than over confident. If you tell me which picture in particular is throwing you off I can describe to you how it is not a sub. You’ll develop a keen eye for this in time.
This is easily the best guide i can find anywhere. You explain everything in a way that everyone can understand.
The shroomery could learn from a guide like this, it seems they’ve been using the same format of website since 2003 lol; along with the ‘no talk of weather’ rule which was probably made because people didn’t have as much bandwidth back then.
Anyways.. Ive been looking around my area of north east melbourne and not having any luck. I dont get it. Its cold, wet and theres wood bark everywhere but no subs. I have found a patch of Leratiomyces ceres but they arent much use to me.
Have you had any luck yet?
Funny disclaimer #2 update btw hahah.
Thanks mate. I found a patch of pins last weekend but haven’t had a chance to suss it out since. It’s been raining heaps so they’re definitely out there, keep looking! Haha, yeah I felt that disclaimer was necessary, glad you got a laugh out of it 😛
Hey mate thanks for the guide, ll the info you need. Have over a hundred dried grams now. I think that’s enough to last me the rest of my life!! Once you know here to look, they are everywhere. Very distinctive too.
Your’s is the inietllgent approach to this issue.
Hey dude great article, i have recently had some cubes from up north NSW and since finding this blog i have become obsessive knowing that psych mushys grow round my area.
I live south of Wollongong NSW close to the coast with real sandy soil, i just would want to know if i should keep searching round the sandy bush, or head into the hills. We have had plenty of rain and i have seen your page on ideal growing conditions and they look similar or is the temp still too high?
Any help is much appreciated
Hey mate, loved the guide, I really respect that you created this in order to educate people, and keep them safe in their hunting.
What I wanted to clarify was; what are the exact differences between the active subs, and the poisonous fungi? In the pictures you posted, I was unable to tell the differences very well, and I’m terrified that I’ll accidentally ingest something that might kill me. I don’t really understand what you mean by ‘the veil remaining attached to the stem’ (paraphrased).
Further help would be greatly appreciated, and again, thank you for writing this awesome guide!
If you are unable to tell the differences then you should be very cautious not to eat anything that has not been properly identified by someone with more experience than yourself. You will develop this experience over time and will eventually be able to spot the magic ones from the lookalikes with 100% certainty.
Pinch the stem, if it doesn’t turn blue leave it. If you bring any home that you think might be active make a spore print. And while you’re waiting for the print send some pictures over at the shroomery to get them identified. With all of these preliminary practices you should never be ‘terrified’ of eating poisonous, unless you don’t trust yourself to ensure you follow the right steps.
By ‘the veil remaining attached to the stem’ I meant that when the cap blooms open the bit of skin that once connected the cap to the stem remains there. If you look at the picture of the mushroom that I mentioned had this trait you will clearly see a little ring around the stem. Almost like the ring you see at the end of a deflated balloon. Hope this helps. And thanks for the support 🙂
hey i live in caulfield, melbourne can anyone point me in the right direction to get some. from qld and just recently moved here .
I am from Mauritius and i always wanted to eat magic mushrooms :/
There is a river near my house but i just can’t make the difference between psilocybin shrooms and those which do not contain psilocybin.
i am afraid that i end up eating some poisonous.
can you help please…
Unfortunately i don’t know what species of mushroom grow in Mauritius so I can’t help you out sorry! Make a thread at the shroomery forum, someone might be able to give you some good advice there.
if i post some pictures of the mushrooms later will you be able to identify them for me??
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i live in mulgrave south east melbourne and i have been looking for these shrooms everywhere the whole season now but havent found them. But i have found Leratiomyces ceres everywhere and you say they can share the same patches maybe i have to look harder. Also would it still be possible if they will still be growing at this time of the season if they still are would you think i would have any luck in finding some in mulgrave.
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Such a great site mate, really well done.
I am just amidst my first serious haul of cyans and cubes in SE QLD, and your drying page has been indispensable!!
Awesome photos and great advice.
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ey mate… love your tips/review and photos and stuffs!!! was wondering if you know if there’s were any at dandenong ?? cause i was planning to go for a bushwalk there with the missus. i come from western suburbs melbourne and I usually go picking in the East Side but recently stumbled across some subs at my cousins place while going hunting with him in his backyard in western subs in melb LOLOL!!!!
Hey, cheers! There should definitely be some activity in Dandenong, but wait for more rain.
hey do you think they’d be growing around this time? it rained all last week so would they be popping up yet? I was looking to hunt in dandenong and endeavour hills in some creeks, good areas or nah? excellent guide by the way!
hey man i absolutely love this guide!! i saw your comment on shroomery promoting this article.
i am from Sydney and just moved to Melbourne, i live in bayside near Brighton (black rock). is it possible to find them around the bayside area or do i have to look more inland? there are quite a few parks with woodchips around , but the soil seems a little sandy!
any response is much appreciated 🙂 thanks!
Im guessing this comment in years to late but im really glad i had a dream about magic mushies (never tried them before but want to )and decided to look them up your guide was just what i was wanting to find. Im going to get out there and see if i can find what im looking for 🙂 what do you reccomend for a first time dose fresh ?
Never too late! The dose you initiate yourself with really depends on you. If you want to start with a low dose to test the waters then I’d suggest 10 grams fresh (1g dried), but if you want to experience it at its full potential then I’d go either 20 or 30 grams fresh (2-3g dried). Seeing as you’re new to picking please be cautious about what you consume and make sure you have everything properly identified first. All the best 🙂
Hey mate just been looking for shrooms this season, I’ve come across 2 different types one much larger than the other, the larger one on Mt Dandenong and the smaller in Fairfield am I able to send pictures in to you? i took a spore print of the larger one and its Tan colour, almost the same as the top of the cap. I’m looking for a blueish spore print right? thanks
Sure, send pics to email@example.com Yeah the spore print should have a purple tint
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Wow! What an informative,extremely well written piece of literature!
This project is worth a million bucks to someone like me who is just beginning to realise what nature has laid before us in the paddock over the road!
I have long wanted to delve into the mushroom world but hearing so many wild tales of predominant bullshit and fear of turning my liver to mush (which is quite possible and well understood) have always made me turn the other way! In the passed few weeks I have scanned the net and found some extremely well (self) educated spirits that are willing to pass on their AWSOME knowledge so that people like me can make informed and identified decisions about how to approach this ‘field’ with alot less fear and possibly fatal guesswork!
I’m ready to roll!!!
Many many thanks-
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BIG Gibson fan myself-all in all,Me thinks you must be one cool human being!!
Happy Life to you-you cool human being!!
Thanks mate! And keen eyes on spotting the 61 SG Reissue and the Epiphone Dot. I’ve changed the wiring in the SG and the Dot and also fitted the Dot with 57 Classics. Here’s a pic of all my electrics https://www.flickr.com/photos/endofthegame/14210464149/
What Gibsons do you own?
Mate-I have a ’61 reissue,2 Flying V’s ’76 and ’67 reissues (the ’76 is loaded with EMG’s- (81 bridge and 89(split coil) neck) and I’ve been thumping away on an Epiphone eb3 I just picked up a month ago from the States (nice n’ Cheap as it’s a factory second)-
Amp wise I’ve got a 100w JCM 900 SLX half stack and a 60w JTM Combo for the glassy stuff (nice vintage sound)
-Ive been bashing the bass thru a little T25 Vox box which surprisingly,goes BANG!
I’ll get some piccys together and send ’em thru when I get a chance man-
MATE! Thanks for the reply and once again! You’re obviously an intelligent cool bloke and its a pleasure to hear back from ya good self! Credit to humanity Brother.
Will catch up again soon-being a Dad of 4 keeps me plenty busy dude so I’ll cast a line when I can mate!
Go easy Champion!
hello people i am new to picking mushrooms i have come across some i think are magic mushrooms some people say they are not magic mushrooms unless they turn blueish in the stalk or the top well , well mine havnt turned bluesih at all theyve been sitting for an hour or so now is there anyone that can send me a email or something some i can send them pictures of the magic mushrooms i have i just dont want to take them and end up in hospital because there bad mushrooms email is firstname.lastname@example.org please and thankyou
The best guide I have seen on the web for subs! Thanks a lot 🙂 I have been picking a couple of times and considered myself fairly experience but this helped me to be a lot more confident in what to look for and what to avoid! Well written also, cheers.
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Only once i have used psychedelics and these were the truffles not the shrooms. The experience is good and i enjoyed with truffles. Can anyone there let me know that are shrooms are safer like truffles or any difference between both. Magic Truffles i bought from magic-truffles-shop.com
If a mushroom leaves a blue spore print, is it hallucinogenic?
I just landscaped my front yard .its a 80 percent shade area. Layed down soil manure mix. Toped by mulch. Lots of rain lately and next thing I know tons of shrooms poping up
.not exactly sure if they are fun ones or poison.are fun ones only carmel color.?mine are white and biege colored.
BS low – ratltnaiioy high! Really good answer!
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